Reply To: Graves Mark 5XL or Face from? › Forums › Faceting Machines › Graves Mark 5XL or Face from? › Reply To: Graves Mark 5XL or Face from? September 26, 2016 at 11:14 pm #2838 SjscatParticipant @Sjscat The only used faciting machines I see are on ebay and there is no way I am going to buy a used precision machine sight unseen. Tom: what do you think of the Raytech Shaw units? Or a Graves Mark IV? Thanks, Sid Steinhaeufel