and for anyone out there,,, if you have a machine and need things for it if you can’t get them from maker or ebay or out there, please contact me. i’ve been able to make some parts and materials for machines. and theres a lot of older machines no longer made that are incomplete and i’ve made what was needed. i’ve mad dops for some. oldy but goodies are out there and affordable to get started on and when one desides–yes– they want this as a hobby life stile work up and save for their final machine. faceting is faceting and all machines have the same basic functions, and once you understand what you are doing you can use any machine.