Forums General Discussion 2019 Competition

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  • #5793

    thomasreeves
    Participant
    @thomasreeves

    I understand the novice stones were lost or stolen but what is the holdup on getting other levels returned. Did they go missing too?

    #5794

    scottwkelley
    Participant
    @scottwkelley

    say what?

    #5795

    thomasreeves
    Participant
    @thomasreeves

    That’s what Ernie Hawes ( who handles the stones) told us. They think the Los Angeles police are looking for them. LOL. I dont understand why they aren’t telling everyone the truth. Email me at tomandsue55@att.net and I’ll share the email string where I asked. He told me on Oct. 11 he’d be sending my intermediate entry but that my wife’s novice stone was lost or stolen. I still haven’t gotten mine. Not a good look for the USFG.

    #5796

    Alan Balmer
    Keymaster
    @alanbalmer

    I’m on the Board of Directors and the Competition Committee, and I haven’t heard anything about this. Please send me whatever you have. it@usfacetersguild.org .

    #5797

    thomasreeves
    Participant
    @thomasreeves

    Ernie told me and one other over a month ago the novice stones were lost or stolen in Los Angeles yet he never told the committee? Were they shipped properly? Poor communication? Poor leadership? And he told me on Oct 11 he would be sending my entry back without wife’s novice stone and that hasn’t happened either. All I want is the truth exposed.

    #5798

    Lowjiber
    Participant
    @Lowjiber

    My understanding is that Tom will provide the facts in the next newsletter.

    #5799

    thomasreeves
    Participant
    @thomasreeves

    Dont the entrants and the competition committee deserve the facts now? You knew about this mess?

    #5800

    Rick_Brooker
    Participant
    @Rick_Brooker

    I have a tracking number and my pre-master stone is in the mail and supposed to be delivered today (11/9/2019).

    #5801

    brellan217
    Participant
    @brellan217

    I am personally most upset by how this was handled. Transparency is paramount in a situation such as this. There has been a complete lack of transparency in this matter, and it appears that even key personnel to the committee were kept in the dark.

    At the very least an email to all novice level entrants should have been sent explaining what happened and what measures were in place to remediate. Yet silence was the approved method of communication. What fruit did refusing to disseminate information yield?

    I have no doubt that these stones are lost forever. I do question whether or not insurance was purchased on the package. If insurance was no purchased, I would like to know why. If insurance was purchased, I would hope that 100% of that insurance would be used to reimburse all novice entrants, at the very least.

    I regret to announce that I have allowed my USFG membership to lapse. I have no intention of renewing. Not because of the fact that this accident occurred, but rather due to the utter failure of the USFG officers to handle this matter in a manner I feel is appropriate. This appalling reaction to this matter is a blemish on the USFG’s reputation that will forever tarnish my own perception of the holistic group.

    #5802

    thomasreeves
    Participant
    @thomasreeves

    Yes, they have destroyed the trust and reputation of the USFG. My wife and I paid for several years and won’t have any further dealings with the USFG and not because of her lost stone but the handling of this. We were hoping to attend Tucson Faceters gathering but since that hasn’t even been announced we cancelled hotel reservations. My intentions were to achieve master status and help with judging as that also helps me learn but that’s history now. Disappointed in leadership of this once fine group.

    #5803

    Jlee2017
    Participant
    @Jlee2017

    I received my stone today.

    #5804

    michaelnoetzel
    Participant
    @michaelnoetzel

    Jlee2017 did you enter in the Novice category or one of the others?

    #5805

    michaelnoetzel
    Participant
    @michaelnoetzel

    Thomasreeves, you said you were notified on Oct 11 that your Intermediate entry was being returned but that your wife’s Novice entry was lost/stolen. Is it possible that it was only hers that has gone missing and that the other entries in that category are accounted for?

    #5806

    michaelnoetzel
    Participant
    @michaelnoetzel

    I’d like to add a few thoughts here if you folks would allow. It’s not even 5:30 AM on a Sunday morning as I write this, I’m only just barely awake and am trying to grapple with hearing about this matter for the first time.

    I could not complete a stone for this year and as such, don’t have an entry but I take this competition very seriously as do you all. The USFG is a fantastic organization that has many volunteers and puts out a wonderfully produced newsletter every quarter. That is no easy feat to come up with all those stories, designs, how-to’s and so on. The annual competition is entered by people from throughout the world and is world-class in its professionalism and critiques.

    They encourage new faceters by not even charging entry fees for the Novice and Pre Master classes and they go to great lengths to ensure fairness in judging, which requires one handler to anonymize all the stones and forward each group to outside judges. There are a lot of moving parts and I would ask that we give the organization a little time to come forward if in fact anything happened.

    I understand that you are all justifiably anxious and answers are deserved but if these stones did go missing maybe there are leads they are trying to follow up on to track them down before an announcement is made? I don’t know what is really going on here but please give them some latitude. There is probably a lot happening behind the scenes to figure out exactly what happened.

    #5807

    thomasreeves
    Participant
    @thomasreeves

    We were told all novice entries were lost/stolen. Brellan above is another novice entrant who initially let us know. The USFG has known over a month and yet not notified the entrants or even the competition committee. They might think the police are on it but we know they have bigger issues so if that was what they were waiting for they should have at least informed the committee.

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