Forums Beginner Questions ADHESIVES TO USE FOR DOPING

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    henry
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    @Henry

    I am new to faceting. In fact I am awaiting for my machine from the UltraTec. Meanwhile, I am watching videos on Utube and reading some books and articles on internet. I noticed that people use different materials for doping and different combinations of adhesives for transferring: wax-wax, wax-epoxy, epoxy-epoxy, crazy glue… What is the “right” method, easiest, and why these materials are used?

    #6500

    Frankwood
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    @Frankwood

    If you don’t have an accurate way of centralising the preform to the dop when first dopping the stone, then wax-epoxy is the best combo.
    You can soften the wax with a BBQ lighter after putting the stone on the machine and use the dial gauge to get it central.

    #6505

    davidechols
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    @davidechols

    I would recommend an adhesive for someone learning to facet. Using wax alone is an another skill that has to be learned. Personally I have always used wax but learning how to use can be very frustrating at first. Stones popping off. The advantages of wax is fast and cheap.

    #6509

    Lowjiber
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    @Lowjiber

    Here are my preferences…

    #1 (98% of time)… JB Weld, clear, 5-minute epoxy. Let it cure overnight.

    #2 (2% of time)… Loctite 404 superglue. Used for tiny stones.

    Wax? Quoth the Raven “Nevermore”.

    Happy Faceting.

    John

    #6513

    bthomason
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    @bthomason

    I use wax or super glue for the first dop. Make a flat spot on the stone with 600 grit. with wax, warm the stone. be careful not to overheat. investing in a dop-pot would not hurt. On the transfer I use 5 minute epoxy, and let harden overnight, it is too soft after only an hour or two. When I go to remove the first dop, I fill a cream cheese bowl with enough water to almost submerge the stone to keep it cool. Then take a butane torch, and hemostats or pliers to heat dop off. Welcome the school of hard rocks!

    #6554

    henry
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    @Henry

    Thank you all for your opinions and advice. The Ultra Tec is delaying shipping for a week, so I am still waiting, reading and watching

    #6609

    master1975
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    @master1975

    I use the two part epoxy upon transfer. I absolutely love loctite 404 for the table… amazing stuff. Here is a big rutilated quartz dopped with loctite 404. I didn’t think it would actually hold, but it did!!!

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    #6619

    MSackos
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    @MSackos

    I use the same adhesives as Lowjiber. JB Weld (because it is readily available at Home Depot) 2 part epoxy and Loctite 404 (superglue). For really small stones, I use Superglue. Bigger stones – Epoxy. Everything in between – depends.

    Nothing against Wax…I just did not learn with wax so I would have to spend some time on it. Ernie Hawes showed me how he uses both Wax and Superglue to dop…cool method!

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