Forums Beginner Questions High Accuracy Angles

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  • #5764

    miketmbt
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    @miketmbt

    If you have a a machine with just a protractor and not digital, what do you do if the diagram calls for angles like 21.63 or similar?

    #5767

    Frankwood
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    @Frankwood

    Hi,
    A digital protractor from your local hardware is the cheapest option. They have a magnetic base, so you could glue a metal strip to the top of your quill base for it to sit on.
    They work well with a dial gauge as you can rest the stone on the lap. Adjust the mast height till you have the angle you want, take the protractor off, note the dial gauge setting and start cutting. Using the dial gauge as a stop you will be able to maintain that angle with that row of facets.
    The protractors from your hardware are accurate to about 0.2deg, the one in the picture, which I got from eBay, is more expensive and claim an accuracy of 0.05deg.

    Regards,
    Frank.

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    #5769

    miketmbt
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    @miketmbt

    Thanks for the tip. I’ll look into that.

    #5770

    davidechols
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    @davidechols

    Having exact angles is nice on a machine but is not absolutely necessary. With experience using the machine you have you can achieve the meets correctly. For example, those that repair gemstones have to find the angle of a facet to re cut or polish it without having any knowledge of what angle it was cut at. What I am saying is you do not need to spend $5000 or more for a machine to enjoy our hobby. I presently own a graves mk4, older ultra-tec, and a facetron. All are capable of cutting complicated designs.

    #5773

    James Clark
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    @jamesclark

    David,
    I am in complete agreement with you. I also own a Graves mk4 an a Facetron and have used each to cut complicated designs with success. One can enjoy our hobby on either machine, as do I.

    #5775

    scottwkelley
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    @scottwkelley

    I have only used a facetron and the way I deal with the 100ths is to take the 10ths number imagine lines using .05 as the center base line. After finding the middle of each number a good reference point can be achieved to find .025 and .075. Like what was stated earlier, getting that close is all about the meet from there. But I can return to a previous facet to finish polish with out any issues or any fault of accuracy in the return to a facet for REWORK–hate rework

    #5776

    steveerichards
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    @steveerichards

    For angles like 21.63 I would put half way between 21 and 22. Do the same with all 21.63 angles. If it’s more or less than .63 (21.25, 21.75) just move just off the main line for 21 or 22 and use same next time you have that angle.

    #5779

    davidechols
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    @davidechols

    All one has to do is use your fine height adjustment to find to right angle to make your meet. One thing that bothered me when I bought my new Facetron concerning the new digital heads is that all electronic devices eventual fail. Decade old Facetrons still work great and command a high price. I chose to go with a good analog machine. I started with a new Graves and cut too many stones to count using most all Jeff Grahams designs with it. Protractor machines have been around like forever and have stood the test of time. Admittedly the Facetron is easier and quicker but for over double the price.

    #5780

    miketmbt
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    @miketmbt

    Thanks for the tips and input. My machine is on order about 6 weeks out.

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